The Tone Thread

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JD01 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:47 pm Yeah, I'm gonna run with this to be for a while to finish this track. I got stumped on the next riff. The one I had soubds shit and I can't play the one I replaced it with yet!

Cheers, miner.
Your guitar tones are night & day compared to what they used to be Jdude...IMO, getting the 2x12 & HK amp are the best decisions you've made since becoming a Tone Tard...
Your tones are killer now... :minernuggs:
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Minerman wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:52 pm
JD01 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:47 pm Yeah, I'm gonna run with this to be for a while to finish this track. I got stumped on the next riff. The one I had soubds shit and I can't play the one I replaced it with yet!

Cheers, miner.
Your guitar tones are night & day compared to what they used to be Jdude...IMO, getting the 2x12 & HK amp are the best decisions you've made since becoming a Tone Tard...
Your tones are killer now... :minernuggs:
:mad3: its the pups man.... Bloody amps just make it louder... :mad3:


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muttley wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:53 pm
Minerman wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:52 pm
Your guitar tones are night & day compared to what they used to be Jdude...IMO, getting the 2x12 & HK amp are the best decisions you've made since becoming a Tone Tard...
Your tones are killer now... :minernuggs:
:mad3: its the pups man.... Bloody amps just make it louder... :mad3:


:tongue:


:nyuk:


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Completely slipped my mind that Jdude uses your stuff too...I stand corrected Sir Muttley, aka "The Guru"... :guru: :biggrin:
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muttley wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:51 pm Thats pretty tight JD.. Very compact but still with good separation. You could even go with a bit more bottom end and a fatter snare and it would be totly uk metalz. Those were the two thing them boys went for back in the day.... You rock man.. :like:
The guitars are actually hi passed in the mix, probably been a bit harsh with it. I'll ease off on that.
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Minerman wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 5:38 pm
muttley wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:53 pm

:mad3: its the pups man.... Bloody amps just make it louder... :mad3:


:tongue:


:nyuk:


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Completely slipped my mind that Jdude uses your stuff too...I stand corrected Sir Muttley, aka "The Guru"... :guru: :biggrin:
The pickups are certainly a big part of it. Good guitar, good pickup, good amp, half decent cab.
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JD01 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 6:18 pm
Minerman wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 5:38 pm
Completely slipped my mind that Jdude uses your stuff too...I stand corrected Sir Muttley, aka "The Guru"... :guru: :biggrin:
The pickups are certainly a big part of it. Good guitar, good pickup, good amp, half decent cab.
...and good chops... :coolstorybro:
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James,
The guitars sound good but a bit more meat would suit those potatoes.
The snare sounds odd to me. I don't know if it's the tone or the timing - it stuck in my head and made it hard for me to focus on the guitars.
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JD01 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:27 am Think I'm going for sort of a modern take on classic metal with this one. Quite pleased with it so far but any tips would always be handy!
Metal Test 1.mp3
I disagree with these guys. After being forced to listen to Randy Rhoads all day while running around with my buddy Chris, I think you need more grind in top end. The guitars are plenty meaty enough. They need more sizzle.

But even with that, they're 1000% better than anything you did with the Blackstar.
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Ok dudes, here are some more strat clips...I fuckin' love the way this thing sounds now, it's still hard to believe...

Signal chain: Strat > Mini Jubilee > ISO Cab/Greenback > SM57

Left guitar: Split bridge
Right guitar: Split neck
Lead guitar: Neck humbucker

The amp settings are just a "general" kind of thing, I tweaked the amp a little for each guitar...The rhythm guitars' gain was on about "3"...The lead gain was on about "7", & I used a vst compressor stompbox to boost it a little...

I didn't use any eq on the guitars, but they do have effects, reverb, with 'verb/chorus/delay on the lead part...
  • 5w mode
    Presence: 0
    Bass: 3-4
    Mid: 6-ish
    Treble: 3-4
    Output Master: 8
    Lead Master: 7
    Input Gain: 3-8
STRAT MIX 5-5-2018.mp3
Split neck strat - 5-5-2018.mp3
Split bridge strat - 5-5-2018.mp3
Humbucker neck strat - 5-5-2018.mp3
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Greg_L wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:23 am
JD01 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:27 am Think I'm going for sort of a modern take on classic metal with this one. Quite pleased with it so far but any tips would always be handy!
Metal Test 1.mp3
I disagree with these guys. After being forced to listen to Randy Rhoads all day while running around with my buddy Chris, I think you need more grind in top end. The guitars are plenty meaty enough. They need more sizzle.

But even with that, they're 1000% better than anything you did with the Blackstar.
Cheers, I actually put more treble in then took it out again! I'll be re-recording all this once I've finished writing and arranging it though so I'll try both more chuck and more sizzle.
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Nice singing, Miner - you kinda sound black and dead.

You hit a major chord where I think there should be a minor at 15s in split neck pickup.
There's a slightly fizzy, crunch on this too. Greg will know how to describe it - its kinda buzzy.
I like this tone though.

The split bridge sounds a little odd to me, almost like it was really trebly but you've taken loads of top of it to make it less harsh, but now it just sounds thin.

I think the lead tone is excellent.
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JD01 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:24 am Nice singing, Miner - you kinda sound black and dead.
:biggrin: Thanks Jdude, this is one of the bunch of covers I'm working on...I'll eventually replace those with my vocals...
JD01 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:24 amYou hit a major chord where I think there should be a minor at 15s in split neck pickup.
There's a slightly fizzy, crunch on this too. Greg will know how to describe it - its kinda buzzy.
I like this tone though.

The split bridge sounds a little odd to me, almost like it was really trebly but you've taken loads of top of it to make it less harsh, but now it just sounds thin.

I think the lead tone is excellent.
I already know I'm not playing this right dude, but you're the last guy I thought would know anything about this kind of music...I thought you liked that pointy-guitar kind of music... :smiles:

The "buzzy" sound, if you're referring to what I think you are, is part of the guitar's tone dude, it can't be dialed out...

I didn't use any eq on the guitars, but the "mastering" preset I used might've added something to 'em all, then when I solo'd each one they sounded different because of that...

After listening to this again, I may re-track one of the rhythm guitars with the SG or LP to make 'em a bit different...

Thanks again dude...
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JD01 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:27 am Think I'm going for sort of a modern take on classic metal with this one. Quite pleased with it so far but any tips would always be handy!
Metal Test 1.mp3
That sounds great man :punk:
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Miner it al sounds good to me, my favo is the humbucker lead tone
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liv_rong wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:22 pm Miner it al sounds good to me, my favo is the humbucker lead tone
Thanks dude...Mutt's P'ups rock man... :minernuggs:
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Here's a bit more of my metal tone. Slightly different to the other one, I think this is both a little less treble and a little more scooped.
I think this is actually too scooped and too dark now, what you reckon?
Metal Test 2.mp3
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JD01 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:54 pm Here's a bit more of my metal tone. Slightly different to the other one, I think this is both a little less treble and a little more scooped.
I think this is actually too scooped and too dark now, what you reckon?

Metal Test 2.mp3
Not really a fan of that one. Is this still silent direct?
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Minerman wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:32 am Ok dudes, here are some more strat clips...I fuckin' love the way this thing sounds now, it's still hard to believe...

Signal chain: Strat > Mini Jubilee > ISO Cab/Greenback > SM57

Left guitar: Split bridge
Right guitar: Split neck
Lead guitar: Neck humbucker

The amp settings are just a "general" kind of thing, I tweaked the amp a little for each guitar...The rhythm guitars' gain was on about "3"...The lead gain was on about "7", & I used a vst compressor stompbox to boost it a little...

I didn't use any eq on the guitars, but they do have effects, reverb, with 'verb/chorus/delay on the lead part...
  • 5w mode
    Presence: 0
    Bass: 3-4
    Mid: 6-ish
    Treble: 3-4
    Output Master: 8
    Lead Master: 7
    Input Gain: 3-8
STRAT MIX 5-5-2018.mp3
Split neck strat - 5-5-2018.mp3
Split bridge strat - 5-5-2018.mp3
Humbucker neck strat - 5-5-2018.mp3
It all sounds real good to me miner. Nice Stratty bite to it without being screechy.
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Greg_L wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 8:17 pm
JD01 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:54 pm Here's a bit more of my metal tone. Slightly different to the other one, I think this is both a little less treble and a little more scooped.
I think this is actually too scooped and too dark now, what you reckon?

Metal Test 2.mp3
Not really a fan of that one. Is this still silent direct?
No this is miced up as was the last one. I think I've over scooped it and it's not bright enough. Just experimenting with tones as I go through arranging the song.
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JD01 wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 4:54 pm Here's a bit more of my metal tone. Slightly different to the other one, I think this is both a little less treble and a little more scooped.
I think this is actually too scooped and too dark now, what you reckon?

Metal Test 2.mp3
To me that is classic circa 80's classic metal all round... :like:

I was there. I hate it..;)
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