JD's Mutt Pup
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Re: JD's Mutt Pup
Great. Cheers, Mutt. No hurry, I won't be able to install it and lay down some tones until next Saturday anyway.
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I'll make sure I lay down a bunch of clips with the JB first and keep my mic placement, amp, pedals etc exactly the same before the new clips.
I'm just genuinely curious to see how much difference this makes.
I've changed the shitty muffled speaker.
I've got to grips with the EQ of the amp.
After swapping out the JB, the only thing left will be the little combo cab - hopefully I won't feel like I need to.
I'm just genuinely curious to see how much difference this makes.
I've changed the shitty muffled speaker.
I've got to grips with the EQ of the amp.
After swapping out the JB, the only thing left will be the little combo cab - hopefully I won't feel like I need to.
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I've always thought you've had a confluence of things working against you. Hot muddy pickup, too much gain, dark mushy amp, no headroom, tiny cab, low volume. All of these things conspire to fuck up a guitar sound. But you do pretty good at making do with it. I think this new pickup will alleviate at least one of the things that I believe work against you.JD01 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2017 11:16 am I'll make sure I lay down a bunch of clips with the JB first and keep my mic placement, amp, pedals etc exactly the same before the new clips.
I'm just genuinely curious to see how much difference this makes.
I've changed the shitty muffled speaker.
I've got to grips with the EQ of the amp.
After swapping out the JB, the only thing left will be the little combo cab - hopefully I won't feel like I need to.
Rebel Yell
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Yeha, but you live and learn if I could stretch to a V30 and 2x12 I would - that'll still be the ultimate goal, I don't think I'll ever be able to justify the 25W Mesas - just too expensive. I don't use much gain these days, have the volume as high as is sensible a home and have dialed the worst of the darkness out of the amp. The pickup should be another step in the right direction. Adding a 2nd mic which is much more in the hi mid has really helped too, just a slight blend. Its the low mids that are the problem with the Blackstar.Greg_L wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2017 1:22 pmI've always thought you've had a confluence of things working against you. Hot muddy pickup, too much gain, dark mushy amp, no headroom, tiny cab, low volume. All of these things conspire to fuck up a guitar sound. But you do pretty good at making do with it. I think this new pickup will alleviate at least one of the things that I believe work against you.JD01 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2017 11:16 am I'll make sure I lay down a bunch of clips with the JB first and keep my mic placement, amp, pedals etc exactly the same before the new clips.
I'm just genuinely curious to see how much difference this makes.
I've changed the shitty muffled speaker.
I've got to grips with the EQ of the amp.
After swapping out the JB, the only thing left will be the little combo cab - hopefully I won't feel like I need to.
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Guys can you lot check my working here...
I have just sent JD the following regarding the colour code for hooking this up.. It would help you can check my working. My colour codes are:
Adjustable coil
Start = Black
Finish = Green
Slug coil
Start = Red
Finish = White
Screw coil is south up.
Duncan list their Buckers as in the link below
Seymour Duncan colour code - Buckers...
So
On JD's guitar he needs to swap the following (Duncan colours first mine in brackets)
Adjustable coil
Start = Green (Black)
Finish = Red (Green)
Slug coil
Start = Black (Red)
Finish = White (White)
Braid always goes to ground.
That would be a direct swap without changing any of the other possible options....
I have just sent JD the following regarding the colour code for hooking this up.. It would help you can check my working. My colour codes are:
Adjustable coil
Start = Black
Finish = Green
Slug coil
Start = Red
Finish = White
Screw coil is south up.
Duncan list their Buckers as in the link below
Seymour Duncan colour code - Buckers...
So
On JD's guitar he needs to swap the following (Duncan colours first mine in brackets)
Adjustable coil
Start = Green (Black)
Finish = Red (Green)
Slug coil
Start = Black (Red)
Finish = White (White)
Braid always goes to ground.
That would be a direct swap without changing any of the other possible options....
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Brilliant. Cheers, I'm sure I'll manage it.
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Yup looks correct!muttley wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2017 2:23 pm Guys can you lot check my working here...
I have just sent JD the following regarding the colour code for hooking this up.. It would help you can check my working. My colour codes are:
Adjustable coil
Start = Black
Finish = Green
Slug coil
Start = Red
Finish = White
Screw coil is south up.
Duncan list their Buckers as in the link below
Seymour Duncan colour code - Buckers...
So
On JD's guitar he needs to swap the following (Duncan colours first mine in brackets)
Adjustable coil
Start = Green (Black)
Finish = Red (Green)
Slug coil
Start = Black (Red)
Finish = White (White)
Braid always goes to ground.
That would be a direct swap without changing any of the other possible options....
Rebel Yell
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Will be fitting it and doing the tone testing on the weekend.
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Fuck me that was quick.I only posted it at 1pm yesterday...
Whatever happens with our coming election I hope they dont re-nationalise Royal Mail...
Whatever happens with our coming election I hope they dont re-nationalise Royal Mail...
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Yeah, I find most of the mail/courier companies work pretty well really.
Don't think there's any call to re-nationalise the Mail. There's a real market there where we have choice and it seems to work.
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OK, JB Reference tones recorded. Time to vandalise my best guitar.
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It lives!
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So you hooked it up OK?
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Yeah - just uploading the clip comparison now
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OK, so got my MuttBucker wired in. Few minor issues, the screw holes in the MuttBucker were slightly smaller than in the Duncan so I had to improvise with some different screws, Brass instead of annodised black ones - this is the only difference in the rig other than the pickup!
In the mixes humbuckers are always on the left, split coils are always on the right - I always do it like that so I know where I am when I'm re-tracking stuff.
In the mixes humbuckers are always on the left, split coils are always on the right - I always do it like that so I know where I am when I'm re-tracking stuff.
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Will only let me upload 5 attachements; here's the final clip
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Initial observations.
They both sound relatively similar in a mix which is good, but the Mutt Pup mix is noticably less muddy so the guitars generally sound clearer. Win!
First big difference I noticed was comparing the humbuckers solo'd - massive difference in tone, Mutt Pup is much less muddy without losing that much gain.
There's a similar differnce with the split coils, although not as pronounced as the Duncan wasn't muddy when split anyway. Main thing I noticed here was a much bigger reduction in gain between splitting the mutt-bucker and splitting the JB.
The Mutt-pup is slightly lower volume than the JB and I didn't compensate when mixing it, everything is identical.
The only thing any of the guitars have on is a slight bit of reverb for the mix, but its a pretty dry mix anyway.
They both sound relatively similar in a mix which is good, but the Mutt Pup mix is noticably less muddy so the guitars generally sound clearer. Win!
First big difference I noticed was comparing the humbuckers solo'd - massive difference in tone, Mutt Pup is much less muddy without losing that much gain.
There's a similar differnce with the split coils, although not as pronounced as the Duncan wasn't muddy when split anyway. Main thing I noticed here was a much bigger reduction in gain between splitting the mutt-bucker and splitting the JB.
The Mutt-pup is slightly lower volume than the JB and I didn't compensate when mixing it, everything is identical.
The only thing any of the guitars have on is a slight bit of reverb for the mix, but its a pretty dry mix anyway.