The Tone Thread

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WhiskeyJack wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:55 am
What is this telling me? Just that it is it's own little weird sub-genre of a Fawn Marshall?
No just that the JMP in this test is that fawn one I got from your buddy.
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Greg_L wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:00 pm
WhiskeyJack wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:55 am
What is this telling me? Just that it is it's own little weird sub-genre of a Fawn Marshall?
No just that the JMP in this test is that fawn one I got from your buddy.
OHHH yea, i gotcha now. :like: I kind of assumed that the one it was.
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Greg, pan one left, one right and one middle! Just for the love!
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JD01 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:18 am Greg, pan one left, one right and one middle! Just for the love!
Without even trying I can tell you that it does nothing because it's the same take reamped through three amps so essentially it's the same thing. There's no performance or time difference between the three.
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Ah, fair enough. I don't have a re-amp box so when I'm comparing tones I always do multiple takes. I suppose I should get one at some point.
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JD01 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:07 am Ah, fair enough. I don't have a re-amp box so when I'm comparing tones I always do multiple takes. I suppose I should get one at some point.
Think of it like sending the same track through different EQs and panning them around. You end up with sort of a deluxe mono. You won't get spread because there's no time difference in the tracks.

If I did three takes through three amps and spread them around it would sound humongous. You need those little fluctuations in time.
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Greg_L wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:11 am
JD01 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:07 am Ah, fair enough. I don't have a re-amp box so when I'm comparing tones I always do multiple takes. I suppose I should get one at some point.
Think of it like sending the same track through different EQs and panning them around. You end up with sort of a deluxe mono. You won't get spread because there's no time difference in the tracks.

If I did three takes through three amps and spread them around it would sound humongous. You need those little fluctuations in time.
That's what I did when I was comparing guitars a couple of months ago
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Here's all 3 left, center, right. Pretty much does nothing.
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Here's the three with some fake spread. One nudged 7ms left, one straight up dead center, one nudged 7ms right.
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As I think anyone can tell, faking it doesn't sound great. There are phase problems. I'd always just do another track.
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Yeah, that sounds weird - in places it sounds like you actually have a phaser on it.
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