JS Spectrum Matching in REAPER

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JS Spectrum Matching in REAPER

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I played around with this plugin to address a fizzy guitar..it worked a bit.
The bloke who wrote it did a Utub demo based on a vocal so I decided to give that a crack so I could follow his example as closely as possible.
The biggest problem I've had is finding when Reaper saves the preset once created. BLOODY annoying to put it mildly.
Nevertheless - I decided to use my thing, grainy gutless vocal and use a vocal from someone with a BIG sound.
I dug around in my old project archives and pulled out a vocal of Joe Mizzi from around 2011.
Basically the plug analyses the reference for EQ & level
then does the same for the target vocal
after which it works out the changes to make the target match the reference.
There are two files - one my voice as is
Happy Songvox orig.mp3
and a second with the results of the spectrum analysis applied to it
Happy Songvox w Sec Match.mp3
The analysis showed that Joe had A LOT of "air" on his vocal track along with bottom end.
I can hear the difference in the top end more than anywhere else. I don't think it was an improvement though. Perhaps I'll need to try a pile of vocals before I find one that improved the ickiness of mine.
This is the 1ts verse & chorus of the mix but with different reference tracks used for main, and harmony parts. It's something of an improvement I think.
Happy Songvox 3 voices.mp3
One is an eastern European chap who has a deep voice and another is an American chap who has a highish voice but very musical sounding and then Joe is in there somewhere as well.
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The brighter, airier high end does seem like a bit of an improvement.

What happens when you put this effect earlier in your FX chain? (i.e. before tuning and compression)
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vomitHatSteve wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:57 am The brighter, airier high end does seem like a bit of an improvement.

What happens when you put this effect earlier in your FX chain? (i.e. before tuning and compression)
It's MUCH better as the 1st plug and can be "frozen" when it's best so that CPU usage is modest. I wouldn't use it & follow with tuning as they're both hungry...it'd have to be rendered in place, I think, before more heavy CPU stuff.
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The analyzed version seems way way better.
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Greg_L wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:47 pm The analyzed version seems way way better.
It'd definitely a tool for someone with a voice like mine.
I chose Joey becasue he has a strong full, rounded voice and he produced his vocals well.
It's a freebie plugin too.
Definitely worth playing with.
I did an example for myself using a guitar track of yours when tooling about.
The results were similar and, again, had a lot to do with upper frequencies.
These things give me clues and ideas for future tracking.
I throw up some comparison images today.
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Her're are some graphs and audio snippets IN the mix.
This is the analysis of my vocal track...
analysing my vocal.png
This is the analysis of Joey's & mine with the planned correction curve in the top section.
spec analysis graph.png
This is my voice in the mix
Happy Song original.mp3
and this is the corrected voice...it's a bit louder too as Joey has a more powerful voice.
Happy Song corrected.mp3
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I'll have a listen to this post-Christmas when I start recording the Honey Hunters acapella album. Handy... :biggrin:
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Iso tracks if you want to give it a burl:
https://we.tl/t-upvSy7G5fZ
vox.JPG
drumbz.JPG

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