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[rayc]

I was invited to a "group" on Discord recently.
It seemed about par for the course with lots of amateurs like myself spending too much or not enough on GEAR but for two regular/frequent posters claiming to be "professionals".
I posted an audio clip of something I was working on.
Between the TWO they responded that it was brittle/too bright and was because it was clipping.
One even showed a screen shot of a SINGLE point of clipping on a LUFS/RMS etc. reading he claimed to have made of the piece.
I checked and responded that there was no clipping on any track or the master bus.
They responded that I was clipping in my plugins.
I checked and responded that NO plugin shows signs of being overloaded.
They responded that plugins clip all the time because people push them too hard and that I'd probably caused clipping in the conversion to MP3 - that it was a trap for young players/all newbies do it.
As expected I've left that mob.

So many forums and so many droobs.
TRR is a rarity, an oasis.

[Lt. Bob]

lol@ internet 'experts'.

[Tadpui]

I've heard people go on about plugins that are modeled after hardware, where they can clip when fed too hot of a signal. It sounds reasonable that this could be a thing that happens. But I have no idea how anybody could prove such a thing. If the track isn't clipping at the input, isn't clipping on the track meter, and isn't clipping on the master...what proof would they possibly have that it's clipping internally inside some plugin?

[Lt. Bob]

It's just supposition ...... they can't really have proof.

Having said that, there is a lot of mysterious voodoo in sound reproduction that is still not well understood.

I have, lemme see, seven nice CD players ... well, 5 of them are recorders too .... and they're at price points where they should all sound the same according to digital dogma. Bits are bits.

But they do not ....... and I'm a skeptic ...... I laugh at many audio superstitions ..... I don't believe in ufo's, don't think the CIA killed Kennedy ..... would never see Jesus on a piece of toast.
But I absolutely and clearly hear differences that, from a technical standpoint, shouldn't exist ..... but they do.

So who knows what's going on in the musical matrix?
Models are designed to replicate things that require a LOT of puter power to replicate ..... it could be that internal processing but it could also be accurate.
I have a Jimi Hendrix pedal .... a Digitech thing ...... works great actually and replicates some of his sounds very accurately ...... very very accurately ..... so accurately in fact that it also humms and buzzes and a 60cycle that's always there ...... a perfect replication isn't necessarily a good thing.

[CeeBee]

So many forums and so many droobs.
TRR is a rarity, an oasis.

hear hear

[Armistice]

I try ...