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Ok, i think i am going to experiment with some of the adjustments on my monitors. G2 Rokit5's. But i will ask the question anyways

My mixes when i reference them in the car always seem to be just the littlest bit dark fairly consistently and i find i have to always come back and either de-mudd the low end or adjust the bass a bit. usually down and brighten up some parts of the mix. Would it then stand to reason that if maybe i were to adjust \ lower my HF knob it would force my hand to brighten things up before referencing? :confused:

Additionally, I had the volumes of each monitor set to +6 (fully cranked) I may try dropping that back to 0 and see what happens to the low end maybe nothing. part of me thinks it might make it worse because i'll be compensating for the lack of push on the speakers? I don't know. Anything is worth a shot i guess.
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I don't know. I think getting low end right on small speakers is just problematic, full stop.

Mine are 6.5 inch, so bigger than yours but it's still just so easy for me to pop out a low-end heavy mix - bass guitar in particular, but too much low kick frequency as well - when I think it sounds about right on my monitors. Get into the car and it's like, WTF was I doing there?

I'm slowly learning that what's about right on normal stereos sounds a bit light on my monitors - and I'm doing a lot more visual mixing, checking the overall frequency balance on Voxengo Span on the 2 track, and for individual tracks as well that have a propensity for muddiness.

So I've resisted the urge to twiddle the monitor settings themselves and am trying to learn what good low end sounds like on my monitors. It's tough though - I'm always overcorrecting. I guess you could try though and see what happens.
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Armistice wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:37 pm ...checking the overall frequency balance on Voxengo Span on the 2 track, and for individual tracks as well that have a propensity for muddiness.
This is what I've been doing for a while.
Set SPAN to its mastering preset and you'll see a visual representation that is smooth and easily read/understood. Mind you SPAN doesn't do any EQing so it's a case of having the EQ and SPAN up together.
OH, THEN turn off SPAN so the periodic cripple mute doesn't destroy your mix.
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rayc wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:22 pm the periodic cripple mute doesn't destroy your mix.
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Version I have, which didn't cost anything, isn't crippleware. Been using it since I started PC recording which was probably 2012/13. It's always on.

I can probably fish the .dll out for you and send it if they've gone crippleware later, or maybe it was an earlier thing and you just need to get a new version?
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I have seen people discuss this Voxenga span thing a few times and i have no idea what it is. I should probably get it and see what it's all about.
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WhiskeyJack wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:29 am I have seen people discuss this Voxenga span thing a few times and i have no idea what it is. I should probably get it and see what it's all about.
I use it on every mix. It's just a spectrum analyzer. Actually, I don't think I've ever changed anything by looking at that thing, but it is neat to look at and see how things are stacking up.

As far as your monitors go, sure, play with the EQ knobs. If your mixes are dark, turn up the bass on the monitors so you're not adding any.
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I always run my stereo, monitors, PA etc thru a spectrum analyzer.
I get anything I have as flat as possible ....... always ..... there's never a speaker/amp that I don't real-time.
Only exception is guitar amps where being flat is pointless.
But otherwise I real-time every system and if it gets moved much I'll do it again.

Then I do use tone controls and such to taste but I always know where flat is as a starting point.
I use pink noise rather than white noise BTW.

There are zillions of them and I'm sure for all you phone/puter guys there's apps that do it.


I have one of these:


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I find paying careful attention to my listening position helps. I've recently found, since getting my new monitors, that I was always sitting too far forward in the room. My listening spot should actually be much further back.
When I sit in the right place, I can hear the bass fall away in my mixes by just rolling my chair forward half a meter or so... I'm now going through mixes working out how to tighten up their woofiness.
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