Thanks Ray!
The guy that did the fret job was really receptive to my concerns and demands. He really did a pretty beautiful job.
Thanks Ray!
Whats the story on your gold top. I knew you had one. It played really nice the time you let me fingerbang it and that did very little for my gassing for one but is it an older one or like one of those reissues?Greg_L wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:31 pm Lol. I plink around on it pretty much every day but I also like just looking at it. I still can't believe I actually have a real Mosrite. I think they're the most aesthetically beautiful guitars ever made.
I have a 5-guitar stand in the corner and there are two guitars that never leave it -the Goldtop and the Mosrite. The rest get rotated in and out as necessary.
No it's really nothing special in the grand scheme of things. It's a run of the mill Les Paul Traditional. I think it's a 2011, I'll have to look. I bought it new in 2012. It looks exactly like a 57 reissue, but it's not. The beauty of the Traditional models from mine's time period is they are what Standards are supposed to be, but aren't anymore. The Les Paul Traditional line up is like a vintage Standard, while modern Standards have gone off the rails with weirdness.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:34 pm
Whats the story on your gold top. I knew you had one. It played really nice the time you let me fingerbang it and that did very little for my gassing for one but is it an older one or like one of those reissues?
Ahh yes! those were pretty good years for Gibson. like 2010 and 2012. Makes sense. Well it is a beast of guitar for sure i can't say I'd be doing anything different.Greg_L wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:45 pmNo it's really nothing special in the grand scheme of things. It's a run of the mill Les Paul Traditional. I think it's a 2011, I'll have to look. I bought it new in 2012. It looks exactly like a 57 reissue, but it's not. The beauty of the Traditional models from mine's time period is they are what Standards are supposed to be, but aren't anymore. The Les Paul Traditional line up is like a vintage Standard, while modern Standards have gone off the rails with weirdness.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:34 pm
Whats the story on your gold top. I knew you had one. It played really nice the time you let me fingerbang it and that did very little for my gassing for one but is it an older one or like one of those reissues?
What's special to me about mine is that I really hunted for it and found one. I finger-banged at least a hundred Les Pauls and SGs back then looking for the just-right one. I wanted a Goldtop and finally found one that was perfect to me. It is still my #1 guitar.
The problem is they try to be everything to everyone and end up screwing themselves on everything.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:37 pm
I don't understand why they (Gibson) need to go changing the flavors. Like their recipe hasn't been broke for years. Just leave the good stuff as is.
I don't know that i could have done a better job of wording it any better. But yea that sums it up right nice. And as a matter of fact I am going to send this to someone who is shopping for a new axe and is reluctant to buy a new one. I really couldn't have explained the gibson thing any better!Greg_L wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:50 pmThe problem is they try to be everything to everyone and end up screwing themselves on everything.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:37 pm
I don't understand why they (Gibson) need to go changing the flavors. Like their recipe hasn't been broke for years. Just leave the good stuff as is.
New ideas infuriate the Gibson purist crowd.
Sticking to tradition turns off the people that want advancement.
It's like, if you like your Gibsons to be "old school" then there's no shortage of instruments out there that meet that criteria. The used market has any Gibson you could want. But once you track down your one or two or three perfect Gibsons, how many more are you gonna buy? You're not gonna buy new, and you already have what you want, so that type of customer is out of play for Gibson.
And there's the modern guitarist that wants modern features. A standard old school spec'd Gibson is a turn off, and there are other companies that are Gibson-ish - like ESP and PRS - that do the modern thing better. So those guys are out of play too.
And finally, suppose Gibson does have a new model that ticks all the boxes - vintage looks and style with well done modern features. Cool! But then they price it out of the realm of reality for regular people. Their line up and pricing has gotten better recently though.
Yeah I've seen some new epiphones and they have really stepped their game up.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:07 pm
I have also been hearing that the new Epiphone Moderns for 2020 are quite the guitar! Obviously not Gibbys but i know two guys that said they chose those over a Gibson.
I still miss my Epiphone. It was a wonderful guitar.Greg_L wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:57 pmYeah I've seen some new epiphones and they have really stepped their game up.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:07 pm
I have also been hearing that the new Epiphone Moderns for 2020 are quite the guitar! Obviously not Gibbys but i know two guys that said they chose those over a Gibson.
Sounds like what you're saying is their actual market is saturated and they're trying to expand into other markets which they're struggling to compete in.Greg_L wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:50 pmThe problem is they try to be everything to everyone and end up screwing themselves on everything.WhiskeyJack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:37 pm
I don't understand why they (Gibson) need to go changing the flavors. Like their recipe hasn't been broke for years. Just leave the good stuff as is.
New ideas infuriate the Gibson purist crowd.
Sticking to tradition turns off the people that want advancement.
It's like, if you like your Gibsons to be "old school" then there's no shortage of instruments out there that meet that criteria. The used market has any Gibson you could want. But once you track down your one or two or three perfect Gibsons, how many more are you gonna buy? You're not gonna buy new, and you already have what you want, so that type of customer is out of play for Gibson.
And there's the modern guitarist that wants modern features. A standard old school spec'd Gibson is a turn off, and there are other companies that are Gibson-ish - like ESP and PRS - that do the modern thing better. So those guys are out of play too.
And finally, suppose Gibson does have a new model that ticks all the boxes - vintage looks and style with well done modern features. Cool! But then they price it out of the realm of reality for regular people. Their line up and pricing has gotten better recently though.
I feel that way about guitars i dont own. Lol. For real. Ill look at guitar and think to myself "god dammit i want that, i could write so much rad shit on that" then i start day dreaming about cool riffs and then i just go try to materilaize it on one of my own guitars. The riff gets out but it doesnt curb the gasTadpui wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:24 am There's nothing quite like having a guitar that makes you happy just by looking at it. Even when you're not playing it, it's an inspiration. I find myself just looking at my guitars a lot. Damned if I find myself actually looking at my guitars more than playing them lately. The muse shall return eventually!