upbeats/downbeats
upbeats/downbeats
I'm assuming there's not left beats or right beats.
OK, basically, I don't know much about drum terminology.
I just think of a basic 4/4 beat as being 1, 2, 3, 4 (hi hat hits) with a kick on 1 and a snare on 3.
What's an upbeat/downbeat in this situation.
Also, I'd often have it as one bar of the kick on 1, the next bar of the kick on 2 (or even 1 & 2), alternating them - this is what I think of as "The Bad Religion Beat" What do you call up-beats and downbeats in this situation.
Basically - I don't know enough about drum terminology to even know what I'm looking for.
I think after I've got the house extension done I might get a few drum lessons to get me started.
I've been looking through all sorts of drum glossary of terms and can't find simple stuff like this anywhere.
OK, basically, I don't know much about drum terminology.
I just think of a basic 4/4 beat as being 1, 2, 3, 4 (hi hat hits) with a kick on 1 and a snare on 3.
What's an upbeat/downbeat in this situation.
Also, I'd often have it as one bar of the kick on 1, the next bar of the kick on 2 (or even 1 & 2), alternating them - this is what I think of as "The Bad Religion Beat" What do you call up-beats and downbeats in this situation.
Basically - I don't know enough about drum terminology to even know what I'm looking for.
I think after I've got the house extension done I might get a few drum lessons to get me started.
I've been looking through all sorts of drum glossary of terms and can't find simple stuff like this anywhere.
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A 4/4 beat is more like kick on 1 and 3, snare on 2 and 4, with 8 hits on the hats.
Hats 1&2&3&4&
Kick 1. 3
Snare. 2. 4
The down beats are 1234, the upbeat are all the &'s
Hats 1&2&3&4&
Kick 1. 3
Snare. 2. 4
The down beats are 1234, the upbeat are all the &'s
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Yup
If you're just playing quarter notes on the hats, there isn't really any "upbeat" to speak of.
If you're just playing quarter notes on the hats, there isn't really any "upbeat" to speak of.
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Great - cheers. So, both kick and snare are down beats. I had no idea - no wonder I've found this so confusing.
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Just think of how you'd clap your hands or tap your foot to a song. Those are downbeats. If you clap on the upbeat, you're fucking goofy.
Rebel Yell
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Just to add a bit of murkiness to the clarity you've just achieved...
Sometimes a person might be told to "come in on the downbeat" -- that means the 1.
Sometimes a person might be told to "come in on the downbeat" -- that means the 1.
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Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
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Or that obnoxious prog drum guy who's trying too hard and just ruining the Gordon Lightfoot show for everyone else!
The "Bad Religion" beat is also the DnB beat.
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This is what I think of as a typical BR beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7M81XfYqnA
Pearl Jam Beat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dCv2civ8QA
Teen spirit beat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8NZOlNbZKM
Indicentally BR have just released a new song:
[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEbd76i1S6Q[/BBvideo]
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Also, I've got a bit obsessed with that blokes drum covers after watching this:
[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcXGG_fmU7Q[/BBvideo]
I would love to be able to play that beat! I can't even quite get my head around how to tap it out on my knees. I can't get the kick and hi-hat timing into my brain.
[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcXGG_fmU7Q[/BBvideo]
I would love to be able to play that beat! I can't even quite get my head around how to tap it out on my knees. I can't get the kick and hi-hat timing into my brain.
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Your "Bad Religion" beat is just a regular fast 4/4 beat with the kick on the EEs and UHs.
Rebel Yell
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Count a 4/4 beat like this:
1/4 notes: 1234
1/8 notes 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
1/16 notes 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
That will help with Greg's last post (referring to the EE's and Uh's)
1/4 notes: 1234
1/8 notes 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
1/16 notes 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
That will help with Greg's last post (referring to the EE's and Uh's)
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Or maybe a flamenco artistΓ©vomitHatSteve wrote: βTue Mar 26, 2019 11:59 amOr that obnoxious prog drum guy who's trying too hard and just ruining the Gordon Lightfoot show for everyone else!
The "Bad Religion" beat is also the DnB beat.
[BBvideo=560,315]https://youtu.be/k-cVW7ZEOUE?t=13[/BBvideo]
awesome youtube comment of the day
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
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Just another definition of "downbeat" - sometimes it means only the 1st beat of a measure. It's contextual:
- if someone refers to "the downbeat", it means the first beat of a measure
- if someone's talking about "downbeats", they mean the beats you count as quarter notes (for example: 1, 2, 3, 4)
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Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
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Is it pretty closed minded of me to suggest just play what the song needs? Like makes it's it flow? Like reading this thread is hurting my head and now i am worried it has broken how i think of drums.
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Am i seeing things or is his drum stick in his snare hand not straight? Like a tooth pick and hockey stick banged in the heat of drunken frenzy and gave birth to that drum stick?JD01 wrote: βTue Mar 26, 2019 12:41 pm Also, I've got a bit obsessed with that blokes drum covers after watching this:
[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcXGG_fmU7Q[/BBvideo]
I would love to be able to play that beat! I can't even quite get my head around how to tap it out on my knees. I can't get the kick and hi-hat timing into my brain.