So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
I mentioned in another thread I really liked the sound of a few pedals I built arranged in a certain order (a boost pushing a fuzz), and that I was trying to learn enough electronics theory to be able to combine the two circuits into one. I've been puttering away at that project for a few months, and I've finally gotten to a tangible result: a working pedal with that combined effect circuit. Pics below, tones forthcoming (have to put away the soldering iron, wire clippers, etc., clear off the table, get set up for recording, etc.).
First, the essential bit: the circuit. This isn't actually the first working version, which was on a breadboard. But it is the first version which could be installed into an enclosure:
Wiring things off the board onto bits and pieces in the enclosure is my least favorite thing to do, so I built the circuit with the vol/tone pots soldered to the circuitboard itself:
Lots of work up to this point, but these are the all the major parts ready to be connected:
When starting to wire things up, one of the first things to do is to get the small, fiddly bits out of the way. Specifically, the indicator LED, and a couple small connections to pins on the foot switch:
Leaving your enclosure looking like this:
(With that, I'm going to start a 2nd post in this thread for the rest of the pics; don't know how much longer my luck w/attachments will hold out...)
First, the essential bit: the circuit. This isn't actually the first working version, which was on a breadboard. But it is the first version which could be installed into an enclosure:
Wiring things off the board onto bits and pieces in the enclosure is my least favorite thing to do, so I built the circuit with the vol/tone pots soldered to the circuitboard itself:
Lots of work up to this point, but these are the all the major parts ready to be connected:
When starting to wire things up, one of the first things to do is to get the small, fiddly bits out of the way. Specifically, the indicator LED, and a couple small connections to pins on the foot switch:
Leaving your enclosure looking like this:
(With that, I'm going to start a 2nd post in this thread for the rest of the pics; don't know how much longer my luck w/attachments will hold out...)
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Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
(...continuing...)
You have to connect 4 wires off the board to various things in the enclosure (+9V power, input signal, output signal, and ground), and then on top of that make some some other connections (so the foot switch can do its job):
But eventually you get to this point where all the wires are in place, and now you just have to solder it all together:
Hopefully, when the solder fumes have cleared, your view looks like this:
(and sounds like...yeah, right, I'll get to the sound clips later.)
As in my previous DIY pedal builds, I've left the graphics until long after I get the thing working, so I'll (probably) post at least one more photo too.
You have to connect 4 wires off the board to various things in the enclosure (+9V power, input signal, output signal, and ground), and then on top of that make some some other connections (so the foot switch can do its job):
But eventually you get to this point where all the wires are in place, and now you just have to solder it all together:
Hopefully, when the solder fumes have cleared, your view looks like this:
(and sounds like...yeah, right, I'll get to the sound clips later.)
As in my previous DIY pedal builds, I've left the graphics until long after I get the thing working, so I'll (probably) post at least one more photo too.
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Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Dude that is awesome! Very impressive. What does the little trim pot do? Do you bias a clipping stage or something?
Rebel Yell
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Well done, Dan. Show us how it sounds when you're happy with it.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
awesome ..... your own design ..... that's way cool
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Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Man that is amazing dude. good job. I can't wait to hear that thing and see how it actually works. Very cool.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Thanks, everybody. Here's something to listen to:
Answers to questions:
The trim pot is the equivalent of the volume control component of the boost pedal (recall this all started with discovering a boost run into a fuzz made neat sounds). When trying to munge the two circuits together, I tried to compute what value of simple/single resistor to put in its place, but it never came out right. (My understanding of the theory, and therefore the calculations, were probably wrong, but whatever.)
I asked an EE friend about this, and rather than getting into the theory, he suggested I simply put a trim pot with the same resistance value as was in the original boost circuit. I was fine with that, since trim pots are only a little more expensive than resistors ($0.03 vs $0.01) and since I don't really intend for it to be adjusted anyway. (But if anybody else uses the pedal and finds out about that, it can be kind of an Easter egg for them.)
No, it doesn't really bias the 2nd stage. Turning it up and down while playing affects the overall sustain of the effect (full up = maximum sustain), as well as adding a bit more harmonic saturation (for lack of a precise word) to the sound (extra wiggly bits in the waveform, which go away the more you turn the trim pot down).
Answers to questions:
The trim pot is the equivalent of the volume control component of the boost pedal (recall this all started with discovering a boost run into a fuzz made neat sounds). When trying to munge the two circuits together, I tried to compute what value of simple/single resistor to put in its place, but it never came out right. (My understanding of the theory, and therefore the calculations, were probably wrong, but whatever.)
I asked an EE friend about this, and rather than getting into the theory, he suggested I simply put a trim pot with the same resistance value as was in the original boost circuit. I was fine with that, since trim pots are only a little more expensive than resistors ($0.03 vs $0.01) and since I don't really intend for it to be adjusted anyway. (But if anybody else uses the pedal and finds out about that, it can be kind of an Easter egg for them.)
No, it doesn't really bias the 2nd stage. Turning it up and down while playing affects the overall sustain of the effect (full up = maximum sustain), as well as adding a bit more harmonic saturation (for lack of a precise word) to the sound (extra wiggly bits in the waveform, which go away the more you turn the trim pot down).
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Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Wow that's a nice fuzz. Fuzzy without being fizzy. Very well done!
Rebel Yell
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
EXCELLENT - taking thought to effect.
Cheers
rayc
rayc
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Well done, Dan. That is a good Fuzz actually.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Speaking of actualities, I *actually* made 4 of these things; 1 to keep, 3 to rotate around to friends, acquaintances, whoever would like to try one out. Of the prototypes, two I've already got plans for, but if any of y'all want to try one out for a few weeks, PM me about it, and we can arrange shipment.
I do need to decide on a name first, though, since I'd like to get the graphics finished before I distribute them. My choices so far are:
Votes on those names? Suggestions?
I do need to decide on a name first, though, since I'd like to get the graphics finished before I distribute them. My choices so far are:
Frothand
Spikey Joe("Joe" like coffee...hence the cream/brown colors)
Votes on those names? Suggestions?
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Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Dan, I'm sure there's plenty of North American rebels that will borrow it off you and pass it round.
Don't think Froth is a good name for a Fuzz. How about you call it Trouser Moustache.
Don't think Froth is a good name for a Fuzz. How about you call it Trouser Moustache.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Fine & Dandy.
Cheers
rayc
rayc
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
You got any other pedal plans? Flangers, phasers, delays?
Rebel Yell
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Damn dude this is badass! I disagree with JD and like Froth!
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
Dang, that sounds pretty darned good!
Aren't you in the Denver area? I have a newfound love for fuzz pedals, and it might be cool to swap stories over a beer sometime.
Aren't you in the Denver area? I have a newfound love for fuzz pedals, and it might be cool to swap stories over a beer sometime.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
I actually think Froth describes its sound pretty well.
I also like how you have the footswitch being Tiggers nose.
I found it very smooth and creamy sounding ...... not as aggressive as 'spiky'.
I think that into a crunchy sounding amp would be a wonderful lead tone.
I also like how you have the footswitch being Tiggers nose.
I found it very smooth and creamy sounding ...... not as aggressive as 'spiky'.
I think that into a crunchy sounding amp would be a wonderful lead tone.
Re: So, if effects pedals are snake oil, I'm getting lots of practice wrangling snakes
I don't know...["Trouser Moustache"] sounds like it's bordering on some term you'd find at urbandictionary. (Of course, when I went to urbandictionary to see if "froth" was in there, the result was...not fit for polite company. [Trouser Monster is in the urbandictionary too.] Now I don't know what name to use... )
That would be handy.
I've started a delay from an existing schematic/layout (I wouldn't dream of attempting to design something like that yet...maybe never). Got some stuff wrong on the board I soldered and it didn't make a sound, fixed one cold joint, so now it passes audio, but something else is goofy in that it goes into infinite feedback if I have the "repeats" knob turned up more than 1/8 turn or so, so I've got more debugging to do on that circuit. I was looking through sites where layouts/schematics are posted today for easy-looking tremolos.
Not far, and yes, sounds like fun.
Last edited by SweetDan on Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
awesome youtube comment of the day
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
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Me too, that's part of the idea behind the names I've got already. Kind of like the bubbles around the edge of your coffee cup when you first pour it.
The coffee idea is also the inspiration behind "Spikey Joe", with "spikey" being that it has a bit of extra kick, extra strong, lots of caffeine. I haven't tried it into a dirty (modeled) amp setting yet...I still get lost in the sound of it turning the clean amp sound into a hot, sludgy mess.
Completely unintentional (but funny now that I see it), and the graphics I posted up there are just sketches of what the final version might look like. But maybe that could be the name -- "Tigger's Nose". Hmmm....
awesome youtube comment of the day
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.
Lol it's still less satanic than whatever rituals Katie Perry and Taylor Swift do in their performances.