Entertain Ourselves To Death

[einstein magoo]

JD,

This sounds really good to my ears. Music and vocals sounding good.
I am just learning and listening very closely, first at pretty low volume then at a moderate volume. I'm hearing a strange "click" in several spots throughout, mostly during what I think is the chorus. Before posting this comment I went back through the thread to see if anyone else had noticed it.

VHS Said:
"This is sounding pretty good.
Vocals definitely have a better tone and better dynamics with the occasional harmony. Something in them clicks at 1:05 on "dying" tho."

Like Steve, I hear a click here and again at these locations: 1:05, 1:10. 2:16, 2:22, 2:40, 3:16, and 3:22.
I hope to learn what this is and how to fix it if it indeed is a thing. Wondering if it might be on my end? but I think it's really there??

[JD01]

JD,

This sounds really good to my ears. Music and vocals sounding good.
I am just learning and listening very closely, first at pretty low volume then at a moderate volume. I'm hearing a strange "click" in several spots throughout, mostly during what I think is the chorus. Before posting this comment I went back through the thread to see if anyone else had noticed it.

VHS Said:
"This is sounding pretty good.
Vocals definitely have a better tone and better dynamics with the occasional harmony. Something in them clicks at 1:05 on "dying" tho."

Like Steve, I hear a click here and again at these locations: 1:05, 1:10. 2:16, 2:22, 2:40, 3:16, and 3:22.
I hope to learn what this is and how to fix it if it indeed is a thing. Wondering if it might be on my end? but I think it's really there??

Thanks Einstien. This is a click in the right hand backing vocal and were I've lazily copied and pasted it it carries right through the song! I'll have to re-track. I have loads of stuff to re-track based on this mix though. Cheers.

[vomitHatSteve]

Thanks Einstien.

This is such a good username because it makes all gratitude seem insincere!

[JD01]

Thanks Einstien.

This is such a good username because it makes all gratitude seem insincere!

[einstein magoo]

Thanks Einstien.

This is such a good username because it makes all gratitude seem insincere!

Good thing I'm thick skinned! Not sure "thanks magoo" would make it sound any more sincere.

[Bubba]

Thanks Einstien. This is a click in the right hand backing vocal and were I've lazily copied and pasted it it carries right through the song! I'll have to re-track. I have loads of stuff to re-track based on this mix though. Cheers.

Oh, really? Mr. "I have to do a complete take all the way through"

You're a fibbing Dodders, that's what you are.

[JD01]

"I have to do a complete take all the way through"

Didn't you wonder why the click always happens on the same beat and lyric?
Anyway - that rule only applies to Guitar and Bass takes! I'm not a good enough singer yet. That lot took me hours.

[Bubba]

"I have to do a complete take all the way through"

Didn't you wonder why the click always happens on the same beat and lyric?

I just thought it was your dentures coming loose each time.

[JD01]

Fair point. I should get some more dentifix

[JD01]

Totally new version,
Re-tracked rhythm guitars, done my best to remove the clicks on the backing vocal - must have sung those lines a million times now, still can't quite eliminate the clicks entirely - but they are minimal now.

New Mix 1.mp3

[rayc]

James,
is this with new amp?
There's a touch of Magazine about it now.
Much improved.

[WhiskeyJack]

Pfffft. I just A/B'd Mix 3 and this last recent mix. It's like a whole new creature dude.

On my system the bass is a little woofy and thick but it works.

Your vocals and guitar are now fighting each in my ears in other in places. most notably the chorus. That is sort of where i seem to hear the struggle.

I like that little lead thing. It's cool. Did you retrack that too?

[JD01]

Pfffft. I just A/B'd Mix 3 and this last recent mix. It's like a whole new creature dude.

On my system the bass is a little woofy and thick but it works.

Your vocals and guitar are now fighting each in my ears in other in places. most notably the chorus. That is sort of where i seem to hear the struggle.

I like that little lead thing. It's cool. Did you retrack that too?

I’ve noticed that the vocals get lost in the chorus too. I think I’m going to wait until next weekend and re track this again but miked up.

[vomitHatSteve]

Those mixes are pretty similar.

Some of the vocals might be a little loud, especially when all the parts pile up.

I like the new guitar tone.

[Bubba]

Yep, everything sounds good.

[JD01]

Cheers guys, I'm gonna replace the guitars yet again on the weekend then I should be done with this and have my first track finished!

[Bubba]

Cheers guys, I'm gonna replace the guitars yet again on the weekend then I should be done with this and have my first track finished!

That's why I was economical with my comment.

[JD01]

Yeah. I thought you'd realise that. As soon as I took your advice and just used a single mic with no other frills I had a bit of a tone epiphany on the weekend... unfortunately I'd already been recording for 3 days!

[Bubba]

I think that Blackstar has caused you no end of grief. You've tried so many fixits and workarounds with that piece of shite you've ended up hardly being able to know your arse from your elbow. Micing an amp in the first instance ought to be the epitome of K.I.S.S. If you can't get a usable tone by poking an SM57 at your speaker halfway between the cap and the edge then there's something seriously wrong and in your case it was the amp. There's nothing wrong with micing with two or more mics when the situation demands it, but these are advanced techniques for peeps who have had success using the simple method and who are looking for an extra dimension of control and tone blending. Greg has excellent results using his multiple mics but he's actually recording a phenomenal sound source in the first place. I'm glad it's starting to work out for you.

[JD01]

I find I prefer the sound of an i5 but I take your point!

Ironically I think I learned heaps from the Blackstar just cos I tried so much to get the tone I wanted out of it and I even got some half decent ones in the end.