New Gear Day

[Armistice]

I feel sorry for recording folks in Australia.

We have higher wages. Swings and roundabouts... it's a cheaper hobby than owning a yacht..

[CrowsofFritz]

I feel sorry for recording folks in Australia.

We have higher wages. Swings and roundabouts... it's a cheaper hobby than owning a yacht..

I know Brazil is also really bad when it comes to electronics prices.

[CrowsofFritz]

IT'S HERE. Already recorded a comparison with it.

https://ibb.co/hWCXXNZ



So, I'm not doing a dumb guessing game. First half is the AT2020, second half is the Neumann. No processing. The guitar is an MXL 4000. All mics were run through an MPA II at high plate voltage.

I think I prefer the Neumann, but only a little. The reason is probably because I dislike the AT2020. It sounds dull to me. Next I'll try the difference between my MXL 4000 and the Neumann.

Regardless, is the difference worth an extra $600? I don't think so lol.

[CrowsofFritz]

New pop filter day! I hated fucking around with my old one, so I got one that just attached to the mic rather than the stand. It looks huge on my tiny Neumann, but cool on my MXL.

[vomitHatSteve]

Doesn't attaching it to the mic reduce its effectiveness? Some of the pop sound comes from the mic itself being shaken, right? That's why a lot of pop filters are on a separate stand even?

[CrowsofFritz]

Doesn't attaching it to the mic reduce its effectiveness? Some of the pop sound comes from the mic itself being shaken, right? That's why a lot of pop filters are on a separate stand even?

What do you mean the mic itself being shaken? The pop sound comes from the diaphragm vibrating too hard from a gust of air.

[Armistice]

A good side effect of a normal pop shield is keeping you sufficiently away from the mic.

I wonder whether that design will achieve the desired result. Let us know.

[vomitHatSteve]

Doesn't attaching it to the mic reduce its effectiveness? Some of the pop sound comes from the mic itself being shaken, right? That's why a lot of pop filters are on a separate stand even?

What do you mean the mic itself being shaken? The pop sound comes from the diaphragm vibrating too hard from a gust of air.

Or I guess rather the mic stand being shaken. The whole enclosure rattles, the mic bumps against stuff, noise.

[Lt. Bob]

What do you mean the mic itself being shaken? The pop sound comes from the diaphragm vibrating too hard from a gust of air.

Or I guess rather the mic stand being shaken. The whole enclosure rattles, the mic bumps against stuff, noise.

an isolation mount is for those things ...... different than a pop filter

[CrowsofFritz]

Yeah, my MXL has a shock mount. I can tap the mic stand pretty hard and I won’t hear a bump.

The Neumann is another story, but I never tap the mic stand on accident or anything.

[CrowsofFritz]

A good side effect of a normal pop shield is keeping you sufficiently away from the mic.

I wonder whether that design will achieve the desired result. Let us know.

I like to be close to the mic. In fact, I just saw a Beatles Pearlman style pop filter for my MXL 4000. I’m gonna snag one! So far so good with this pop filter. I actually think it works better than my old one given it’s metal.

[Tadpui]

Yeah, my MXL has a shock mount. I can tap the mic stand pretty hard and I won’t hear a bump.

The Neumann is another story, but I never tap the mic stand on accident or anything.

I didn't realize that the TLM 102 had internal shock dampening:

Some newer microphones, such as the Neumann TLM 102, sport an internal shock mount, i.e. the capsule mount is shock absorbent. This helps to make a clean recording, but an (additional) external shock mount is much more effective.

That's a pretty cool feature.

The other day I got a wild hair and looked around at prices for a U87 or U67. I knew that they were expensive, but damn! A new production model U87 is about $3650 if I want a shock mount with it. And the U67...forget about it. The reissues are over $7500, and vintage ones are well above $10K.

I did see a pair of U87 Ai for $5500, and it's kind of sad that it struck me as a bargain. I'm actually a little tempted on that one, even though that'd be a silly expenditure for some nobody making music in his basement. The finest microphones that nobody would ever hear

[CrowsofFritz]

Yeah, my MXL has a shock mount. I can tap the mic stand pretty hard and I won’t hear a bump.

The Neumann is another story, but I never tap the mic stand on accident or anything.

I didn't realize that the TLM 102 had internal shock dampening:

Some newer microphones, such as the Neumann TLM 102, sport an internal shock mount, i.e. the capsule mount is shock absorbent. This helps to make a clean recording, but an (additional) external shock mount is much more effective.

That's a pretty cool feature.

The other day I got a wild hair and looked around at prices for a U87 or U67. I knew that they were expensive, but damn! A new production model U87 is about $3650 if I want a shock mount with it. And the U67...forget about it. The reissues are over $7500, and vintage ones are well above $10K.

I did see a pair of U87 Ai for $5500, and it's kind of sad that it struck me as a bargain. I'm actually a little tempted on that one, even though that'd be a silly expenditure for some nobody making music in his basement. The finest microphones that nobody would ever hear

Lol there’s definitely diminishing returns the higher you go on mics. At least with the Neumann there’a some resale value.

[Lt. Bob]

I didn't realize that the TLM 102 had internal shock dampening:



That's a pretty cool feature.

The other day I got a wild hair and looked around at prices for a U87 or U67. I knew that they were expensive, but damn! A new production model U87 is about $3650 if I want a shock mount with it. And the U67...forget about it. The reissues are over $7500, and vintage ones are well above $10K.

I did see a pair of U87 Ai for $5500, and it's kind of sad that it struck me as a bargain. I'm actually a little tempted on that one, even though that'd be a silly expenditure for some nobody making music in his basement. The finest microphones that nobody would ever hear

Lol there’s definitely diminishing returns the higher you go on mics. At least with the Neumann there’a some resale value.

yeah, at some point you should look at what you're doing with it.
Will a U87 really be such an improvement that you finally like your own voice?
doubt it

If you're a studio for hire then it's actually a credential to have one and makes sense for that.

But for recording ...... I've heard far too many excellent vocals done with all sorts of stuff including just an old SM-58 to not realize it's what you do with what you have and NOT what you have is what makes you do.

[rayc]

The Neumann is another story, but I never tap the mic stand on accident or anything.

It seems there's a misunderstanding of both "never" and "accident".

[Armistice]

I used to have to coach my co-Jongleur not to tap his foot - even on the carpet - when singing...

[CrowsofFritz]

I used to have to coach my co-Jongleur not to tap his foot - even on the carpet - when singing...

I don’t like tapping my foot. I’ll sometimes bob my head when playing guitar or bass, but that’s about it.

[vomitHatSteve]

Or I guess rather the mic stand being shaken. The whole enclosure rattles, the mic bumps against stuff, noise.

an isolation mount is for those things ...... different than a pop filter

Ohhhhh. Right, of course.

[Tadpui]

I used to have to coach my co-Jongleur not to tap his foot - even on the carpet - when singing...

My worst enemy when tracking vocals is the cable for the headphones. I've gotten in the habit of holding it in my hand so it doesn't flop around and smack against the mic stand or other things nearby and cause weird noises to be picked up by the mic. Those dang coiled headphone cables are terrible about that.

[CrowsofFritz]

I used to have to coach my co-Jongleur not to tap his foot - even on the carpet - when singing...

My worst enemy when tracking vocals is the cable for the headphones. I've gotten in the habit of holding it in my hand so it doesn't flop around and smack against the mic stand or other things nearby and cause weird noises to be picked up by the mic. Those dang coiled headphone cables are terrible about that.

My new headphones came with a coiled cable and a non coiled one. But I have a super long cable I use with my other pair of tracking phones.