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ribbon mics
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Re: ribbon mics
If you could weld four together like a chunk of Battenburg cake, then cut out all the interior walls, then that just might be adequate.
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I have a media desk about 2m long in a corrodor where the computer and momitors/monitors live, opening out to a 7m x 7m combo kitchen / lounge / dining area where the singing and acoustic playing happen, everything else is done on front of the computer in the corridor. Works fine.
Oh yeah, j priced Royer mics at the only place which would have them locally. Wow. They had a matched pair further up the range for $10k AUD. The 121 was $2k. Ouch.
Oh yeah, j priced Royer mics at the only place which would have them locally. Wow. They had a matched pair further up the range for $10k AUD. The 121 was $2k. Ouch.
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I might just try to track down the best clone R121. Surely someone makes one.
Rebel Yell
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According to my little bit of research, though I'd advise you do due diligence, this is THE clone sonically speaking...
cascade fat head
cascade fat head
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rayc
rayc
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I have a couple of FAT HEADS which are exactly the same as the cascade ones, but sold under a different brand, open plan recording http://www.openplanrecording.com/about (actually he has a 121 clone) Fat Heads sound great on guitar cabs, I usually use a fat head and a SM57 or 421 together, my favourite go to setup.
I have actually used the fat heads on acoustic guitar recordings when I have a singing guitar player tracking the vocals and guitar at the same time, sounds good.
Alan.
Oh I have a shipping container out back of the studio, I use it to store some of the crap I own, old PA gear, Old mixers not worth a six pack of beer, old wood and steel, come to think of it isn't it what shipping containers were designed for? Could make a good reverb chamber
I have actually used the fat heads on acoustic guitar recordings when I have a singing guitar player tracking the vocals and guitar at the same time, sounds good.
Alan.
Oh I have a shipping container out back of the studio, I use it to store some of the crap I own, old PA gear, Old mixers not worth a six pack of beer, old wood and steel, come to think of it isn't it what shipping containers were designed for? Could make a good reverb chamber
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Wondering about the cheap ribbon mics, no way I can drop the kind of coin mentioned earlier in the thread...Any suggestions for cheaper ribbon mics dudes???
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I've been looking around & AMS has a few cheap ribbon mics starting around $100 that wouldn't be too expensive to roll the dice on...There's just no way I can drop a big amount of coin on a mic...Sweetwater's prices start around $250 - $300, & I know you get what you pay for, but that's still pretty expensive for me...
This is one of the cheap mics that wouldn't be too bad for me to take a chance on...
I'm probably gonna buy some sort of pad to be able to use my condenser mics on my guitars before long, plus I'm gonna start another ISO cab build in the next little while too...
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Give the http://www.mxlmics.com/microphones/studio/R144/or the variants i.e: R40 a look. Can pick them up very cheap. None of my ribbon mics cost a lot, and they all get good results. My Fathead style ribbons, which I really like are from https://www.openplanrecording.com/home, but the fathead has been discontinued, but I think they were based on a modded http://cascademicrophones.com/microphon ... eadribbons, so have a look at them also.
Alan.
Alan.
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Thanks man, the MXL you linked is one of the mics I was considering...witzendoz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:42 pm Give the http://www.mxlmics.com/microphones/studio/R144/or the variants i.e: R40 a look. Can pick them up very cheap. None of my ribbon mics cost a lot, and they all get good results. My Fathead style ribbons, which I really like are from https://www.openplanrecording.com/home, but the fathead has been discontinued, but I think they were based on a modded http://cascademicrophones.com/microphon ... eadribbons, so have a look at them also.
Alan.
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I've been using ribbons more and more. I don't have any Royers and have never used one - I bet they're great.
Samar Audio (Marik from the boards) is making some amazing ribbon mics - I use a VL37 whenever I record guitar amps and it absolutely destroys the other mics I try to use - I still occasionally put another one up for testing purposes, but it's getting to the point where I just go with the VL37 and don't even think about it. Also great on overheads, vocals, acoustic guitar, percussion, etc. If I had to keep just one ribbon mic, this would definitely be it.
Back on HR when we did the group buy in like 2007/8, Chance got us a "tube ribbon" - the TNC ACM-900. Everything was cheap and so I got one even though it seemed pretty gimmicky. The tubes - 6J1 - are esoteric, but maybe not so hard to find, I don't know. There was a radio/tv repair shop-that-time-forgot close to my house back then and they had a small lot of them, so I bought them. If you have an ACM-900, get ahold of me and I can send you one, since I have more than I'll ever use. The mic turned out to be the *ultimate* mic for recording 'oooh' background vocals. We call it the 'ooooh mic' around here now.
Coles 4038 - I got a second-hand pair of those a while back. Not cheap, but very useful - definitely they have a "sound". Amazing on drum overheads if you're going for that sound. I had lent out the oooh mic a few weeks ago and used one to record some ooohs - serviceable, but I missed the ACM-900.
Beyerdynamic M160 - my drum room is too small, so I have to place overhead mics two drumsticks away instead of three, and so I was pessimistic about using these hypercardiods for overheads because I thought they would miss too much sound outside the tight pattern. Wrong!! They have a sound also and it's complete money for toms in particular, but the whole kit sounds punchy and awesome.
Samar Audio (Marik from the boards) is making some amazing ribbon mics - I use a VL37 whenever I record guitar amps and it absolutely destroys the other mics I try to use - I still occasionally put another one up for testing purposes, but it's getting to the point where I just go with the VL37 and don't even think about it. Also great on overheads, vocals, acoustic guitar, percussion, etc. If I had to keep just one ribbon mic, this would definitely be it.
Back on HR when we did the group buy in like 2007/8, Chance got us a "tube ribbon" - the TNC ACM-900. Everything was cheap and so I got one even though it seemed pretty gimmicky. The tubes - 6J1 - are esoteric, but maybe not so hard to find, I don't know. There was a radio/tv repair shop-that-time-forgot close to my house back then and they had a small lot of them, so I bought them. If you have an ACM-900, get ahold of me and I can send you one, since I have more than I'll ever use. The mic turned out to be the *ultimate* mic for recording 'oooh' background vocals. We call it the 'ooooh mic' around here now.
Coles 4038 - I got a second-hand pair of those a while back. Not cheap, but very useful - definitely they have a "sound". Amazing on drum overheads if you're going for that sound. I had lent out the oooh mic a few weeks ago and used one to record some ooohs - serviceable, but I missed the ACM-900.
Beyerdynamic M160 - my drum room is too small, so I have to place overhead mics two drumsticks away instead of three, and so I was pessimistic about using these hypercardiods for overheads because I thought they would miss too much sound outside the tight pattern. Wrong!! They have a sound also and it's complete money for toms in particular, but the whole kit sounds punchy and awesome.
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How do you like the M160 on guitar cabs....or haven't you used them there?
I've got 3 Cascade ribbon mics...but been wanting to get something maybe a bit different or upscale, but I don't want to drop a grand on a Royer or Coles. I see the M160 can be had used for $400-$500.
I've got 3 Cascade ribbon mics...but been wanting to get something maybe a bit different or upscale, but I don't want to drop a grand on a Royer or Coles. I see the M160 can be had used for $400-$500.
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I got the M160s not too long ago and immediately put them on the overhead stands, so I haven't tried them anywhere else yet. Once the water goes down here I need to track drums for I think 2 more songs for this CD, then I'll get off my butt and take them down and try them elsewhere.