The Tone Thread

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:12 pm

The i5 is much smoother than a 57. I prefer it as the bright mic placement, 57 for more body.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:18 pm

Lol. This Jubilee is a real a piece of crap to deal with.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Lt. Bob » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:45 am

at least it looks like there's a pretty good bit of room to work on stuff

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:56 am

Lt. Bob wrote:
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at least it looks like there's a pretty good bit of room to work on stuff
Yeah on one hand the spade connectors and ribbon cables make it easy to take apart. I got the board completely removed without even turning on the soldering iron. On the other hand, a tube amp being assembled like this just gives me an uneasy feeling. This thing is like a computer with tubes.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Tadpui » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:22 am

Holy crap, that looks as bad on the inside as this focusrite does! Except the Jube has way more scary looking giant capacitors in it.

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by rayc » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:43 am

JD01 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm
New Rhythm 1.mp3
New Rhythm 2.mp3
ONE seems like it'd fit in a Buzzcocks' mix until the chugga. Both are good to my ears.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by rayc » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:46 am

Greg_L wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:56 am
Lt. Bob wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:45 am
at least it looks like there's a pretty good bit of room to work on stuff
Yeah on one hand the spade connectors and ribbon cables make it easy to take apart. I got the board completely removed without even turning on the soldering iron. On the other hand, a tube amp being assembled like this just gives me an uneasy feeling. This thing is like a computer with tubes.
I like the OCD labeling.
Reminds me of the back of my stereo: all connections labeled both ends.
It does look odd, you're right.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by JD01 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:40 am

Greg_L wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:12 pm
The i5 is much smoother than a 57. I prefer it as the bright mic placement, 57 for more body.
Yeah, me too now. I just hadn't had time to really experiment with it until now.

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by JD01 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:42 am

rayc wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:43 am
JD01 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm
New Rhythm 1.mp3
New Rhythm 2.mp3
ONE seems like it'd fit in a Buzzcocks' mix until the chugga. Both are good to my ears.
Yeah, I'm pleased with these to be fair.
Looking forward to getting a new amp, but I'm actually pretty pleased with what I have now so a bit nervous about it! I'm sure it will be fine and I can always revert back to a Blackstar if I don't get on with it.

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:35 am

rayc wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:46 am

I like the OCD labeling.
Reminds me of the back of my stereo: all connections labeled both ends.
It does look odd, you're right.
There's absolutely no way I could do this without labeling every wire. It's like 20-something wires I had to remove. They just pull off, but there's no rhyme or reason to it. Thankfully the connections of the board are marked, so I just made a little flag for each wire and wrote where it goes on it.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by SweetDan » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:51 am

JD01 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm
...These are the new tones that I've been working on today - I'm actually pretty pleased with them, they seem to sit in a mix pretty well...
Nice!

I'm really curious, though, about your production techniques that allowed you to go from a tone clip to a full, finished mix ("Entertain Ourselves To Death", right?) in a day. :cool:
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by JD01 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:59 am

SweetDan wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:51 am
JD01 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm
...These are the new tones that I've been working on today - I'm actually pretty pleased with them, they seem to sit in a mix pretty well...
Nice!

I'm really curious, though, about your production techniques that allowed you to go from a tone clip to a full, finished mix ("Entertain Ourselves To Death", right?) in a day. :cool:
haha, I had the scratch tracks down already, the song written/arranged and the drums done. I just needed to get the vocals done and record all of my "keeper" guitar tracks. The vocal took me 2 or 3 hours of take after take to nail it (I'm a shite singer). Rhythm L took me three takes, then I did Rhythm R in one take. Then I worked on the lead bits quietly for a while until I had them under my fingers before recording them.

I didn't write, arrange, programme drums and do everything in one day!
I'll normally spend a while working on something deciding what I like and what I don't record scratch tracks using the emulated out from the amp as I can do this at any time of day, practice the parts so I know I can play them well etc. Then when I come to track things for keeps I can generally get it done really quickly.
I've only realised that this seems to be the best technique for me in the last few months though.

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Minerman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Greg_L wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:18 pm
Lol. This Jubilee is a real a piece of crap to deal with.
Holy fuck man, all that to replace one cap??? I'm gonna bet actually replacing the cap only took about 2 minutes, right??? Labeling all the connectors is a very good idea for somebody like me...This makes is pretty safe to say if anything ever happens to my Mini Jube, I'll be sending it off to be fixed...
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:06 pm

Minerman wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Holy fuck man, all that to replace one cap??? I'm gonna bet actually replacing the cap only took about 2 minutes, right??? Labeling all the connectors is a very good idea for somebody like me...This makes is pretty safe to say if anything ever happens to my Mini Jube, I'll be sending it off to be fixed...
Lol yeah actual solder time will be like 30 seconds.
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Post by muttley » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:25 pm

Greg_L wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:06 pm
Minerman wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Holy fuck man, all that to replace one cap??? I'm gonna bet actually replacing the cap only took about 2 minutes, right??? Labeling all the connectors is a very good idea for somebody like me...This makes is pretty safe to say if anything ever happens to my Mini Jube, I'll be sending it off to be fixed...
Lol yeah actual solder time will be like 30 seconds.
Too long. Aim for less than 3...;)

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Minerman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:10 pm

Sorry I haven't been on the ball here in our thread, so I went back a couple pages to try & catch up...

Ray: Like I mentioned the last time, with each clip you post, I hear improvement...Not sure why your amp won't go into "meltdown", but again, each clip is an improvement...The last 2 parts of this clip are getting there dude, keep after it...

Jdude: Doesn't sound too bad man, it's a bit bright & thin to me, but in a mix it'll probably cut through pretty good...
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by JD01 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:16 am

Cheers miner. I was pretty pleased with them in the mix so I thought I’d pop the raw tracks up here too.

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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:28 pm

Okay hopefully this is my last update with dumb Jubilee.

Old busted cap gone...
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Board reinstalled. I'm leaving my labels just in case....
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It's alive!
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I had one little oh shit moment. When I flipped it on, I had the bias probes hooked up to monitor the voltage, and I had a runaway voltage condition that popped the fuse again after a nice little light show from the tubes. WTF. I double checked all my work and it seems good. I think it's a bad tube. I put a known good set of older tubes in it and a new fuse and it's totally fine. When that cap blew it must have damaged the tubes.
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Minerman » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:35 pm

Greg_L wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:28 pm
Okay hopefully this is my last update with dumb Jubilee.

I had one little oh shit moment. When I flipped it on, I had the bias probes hooked up to monitor the voltage, and I had a runaway voltage condition that popped the fuse again after a nice little light show from the tubes. WTF. I double checked all my work and it seems good. I think it's a bad tube. I put a known good set of older tubes in it and a new fuse and it's totally fine. When that cap blew it must have damaged the tubes.
Good to hear it was only a bad tube Greg, I read your thread in the Marshall forum & thought the amp had something seriously wrong...Good deal...

BTW, you need to throw a pic of your Marshalls up in the "Show Us Your Marshall Amps" thread over there...

I really get a kick out of those guys trying to figure you out sometimes... :lollers:
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Re: The Tone Thread

Post by Greg_L » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:37 pm

Minerman wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:35 pm

Good to hear it was only a bad tube Greg, I read your thread in the Marshall forum & thought the amp had something seriously wrong...Good deal...

BTW, you need to throw a pic of your Marshalls up in the "Show Us Your Marshall Amps" thread over there...

I really get a kick out of those guys trying to figure you out sometimes... :lollers:
Ha no I'm intentionally mean and vague with those morons. It's so easy to rile them up. They take themselves way too seriously.

I need their tech help though. :frown:
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