EQing your reverb impulse

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EQing your reverb impulse

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OK, so what I've started doing lately is having one track with a reverb impulse set 100% wet and I send varying amounts of everything else to it. No problem.

Has anyone else tried EQing their reverb track? I'm trying to do a hi-pass on it 'cos I've had this problem a few times where I'm getting the "boom" off the kick creating a really weird slappy effect that I haven't been able to control before.

Problem I had before was that I always send the kit to the reverb impulse as a whole so the whole kit has the same amount of verb. Its simple and sounds good.

This meant that I was either limited in the amount of verb I could use before the kick went weird or leave the kick drier than the rest of the kit that I didn't want to do.
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Yeah...I mess with the reverb EQ, and I usually create a bunch of my own presets for my favorite reverb types...setting up different decay times.
With reverb though, the highs are usually what goes first...but for sure, if it's pulling too much lows on you, then roll it off to taste.
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I always use a high pass filter on reverb.
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I high pass and low pass my drum reverb.

My vocal reverb gets high passed, low passed, and also cut around 2-3k.
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JD01 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:04 pm OK, so what I've started doing lately is having one track with a reverb impulse set 100% wet and I send varying amounts of everything else to it. No problem.

Has anyone else tried EQing their reverb track? I'm trying to do a hi-pass on it 'cos I've had this problem a few times where I'm getting the "boom" off the kick creating a really weird slappy effect that I haven't been able to control before.

Problem I had before was that I always send the kit to the reverb impulse as a whole so the whole kit has the same amount of verb. Its simple and sounds good.

This meant that I was either limited in the amount of verb I could use before the kick went weird or leave the kick drier than the rest of the kit that I didn't want to do.
The way you are using reverbs now is the correct way, IMO. I never send the close-mic'd kick track to the reverb. I also hi-pass my reverb a bit, but no lower than about 150 Hz.
I don't low pass it as I use a reverb sim mostly and there are different characters of reverb with eq tweaks available on it. I sometimes mid scoop the reverb a bit but there's usually no need if the OH tracks are slightly scooped in the low mids. Unless the rest of the instruments are adding mud to the reverb as well, of course.
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I don't ever EQ my reverb. I just haven't found the need for the shit I do. I do take care to use "clean" reverbs though. If something like a kick or vocals are activating an ugly part of the reverb, I just grab a different reverb.
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Greg_L wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:29 am I don't ever EQ my reverb. I just haven't found the need for the shit I do. I do take care to use "clean" reverbs though. If something like a kick or vocals are activating an ugly part of the reverb, I just grab a different reverb.
Exactly right. If something in your mix isn't working with the impulse, there are a thousand more impulses to use. The worst ones for drums are often the ones that sound great on slow vocals. Ones with a late swell in the low end.
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I high pass all my sends...I generally have a room, hall, chamber, ping pong and stereo delay going on...high pass them all to around 50-100Hz. Bit different with synths and layers etc...but bass and kick are always fighting for space in any kind of music I guess.

I also use a M/S EQ on the master bus and High Pass the Side to around 50Hz too...I generally use a touch of delay on the bass to give it movement and the M/S EQ keeps everything anchored
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itsnotkcearl wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:16 pm I high pass all my sends...I generally have a room, hall, chamber, ping pong and stereo delay going on...high pass them all to around 50-100Hz. Bit different with synths and layers etc...but bass and kick are always fighting for space in any kind of music I guess.

I also use a M/S EQ on the master bus and High Pass the Side to around 50Hz too...I generally use a touch of delay on the bass to give it movement and the M/S EQ keeps everything anchored
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Do a YouTube search for the Abbey Road EQ trick. It's incredibly helpful.
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Bubba wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:32 am Exactly right. If something in your mix isn't working with the impulse, there are a thousand more impulses to use. The worst ones for drums are often the ones that sound great on slow vocals. Ones with a late swell in the low end.
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".. cos I've had this problem a few times where I'm getting the "boom" off the kick creating a really weird slappy effect that I haven't been able to control before."
This is leading to it being an inapproiate patch. (that's harsh, let's say 'poor fitting reverb.
I mostly send from my drum bus as well, but they tend to be in the small to medium sizes, primarily to give the kit some space around it (missing in my small home room).
Fact of the mater is -the kick primarily, precludes a lot (most?) larger stuff, due to their their being to long, or by nature include too much slop in reflections.
One obvious solution, save the generating of 'big' in your mix via selected sources. (Snare, toms for example.
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