Recording Rebels membership exclusive! Speaker cab impulses!

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For my Rebel friends...I have a ton of Marshall 4x12 Greenback speaker convolution impulse files.

Many sample rates and bit depths.
Many, many mics. The most famous guitar recording mics.
Every mic position and distance you can think of.
And the AxeFX cab files themselves.

Load up your favorite sim and put these cab impulses behind it using your favorite convolution file host. Sound like you're using a Marshall Greenback cab. :jam:

For members only. Sorry guests and lurkers, you gotta register and be useful first. PM me if you want it. :coolstorybro:
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crap ..... makes me wish I had a sim!
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Did you make these yourself?
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jonny deep wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:21 am Did you make these yourself?
No, I have no idea how they do this voodoo witchcraft.
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Greg_L wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:41 am
jonny deep wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:21 am Did you make these yourself?
No, I have no idea how they do this voodoo witchcraft.
To do reverb convolutions you go in the space you want it to sound like and record a sine wave at a certain frequency & volume (I think the pro ones use very expensive reference mics). I guess you do similar through a cab to get these.
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Greg_L wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:41 am
jonny deep wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:21 am Did you make these yourself?
No, I have no idea how they do this voodoo witchcraft.
PMSL - I did wonder. :D In some ways you can be a real technophobe, then you pull out some in-depth shit to do with wiring, tone stacks, capacitor choice etc. in Marshall amps. :biggrin:
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jonny deep wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:27 am
To do reverb convolutions you go in the space you want it to sound like and record a sine wave at a certain frequency & volume (I think the pro ones use very expensive reference mics). I guess you do similar through a cab to get these.
I've read that the "creators" would record a sharp transient, like a gun shot or a balloon popping. Something very quick and loud in whatever space they're trying to capture. Then they keep just the reverb tail. It's weird. :crazy:
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Bubba wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:30 am PMSL - I did wonder. :D In some ways you can be a real technophobe, then you pull out some in-depth shit to do with wiring, tone stacks, capacitor choice etc. in Marshall amps. :biggrin:
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Greg_L wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:32 am
jonny deep wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:27 am
To do reverb convolutions you go in the space you want it to sound like and record a sine wave at a certain frequency & volume (I think the pro ones use very expensive reference mics). I guess you do similar through a cab to get these.
I've read that the "creators" would record a sharp transient, like a gun shot or a balloon popping. Something very quick and loud in whatever space they're trying to capture. Then they keep just the reverb tail. It's weird. :crazy:
I've had thought they'd have taken the driest signal they could get of something simple (like a sine wave) and also captured the wettest signal they could get, from say the very back of the room and somehow subtracted them from eachother so they are left with the way that the wave is altered but with none of the actual sound.
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JD01 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:35 am
I've had thought they'd have taken the driest signal they could get of something simple (like a sine wave) and also captured the wettest signal they could get, from say the very back of the room and somehow subtracted them from eachother so they are left with the way that the wave is altered but with none of the actual sound.
Could be. I really don't know. I've only read articles about it. Maybe there's more than one way to do it.

I guess maybe you could run a sine wave through a space or an amp, and then phase reverse the original sine wave to cancel it out, leaving you with just the bit you want. No idea.
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I think that if you run a sine wave of a known frequency, you can subtract it from the recorded sound and only have the reverb left. Then some cleverness can be used add that reverb to any sound.

Edit - that's what Greg pretty much said above!
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There was a guy at the other place that made his own reverbs from his house a long time ago. I snagged em but I don't ever use them. I don't think they sound that good. His rooms are just not good rooms. But the files do perform exactly as they should. I should have asked him how he did it.
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I think most reverb impulses are done with balloons popping or something. That's all I know (or don't know).

Anyway, no need to jump through hoops for good reverbs. There are lots of great impulses out there. I have a shit ton of the Lexicons, as I think you guys do, too. Don't need more than that.

As far as Greg's cab impulses, this is great stuff. Like I was telling Greg, I have to narrow it down because there are way too many choices. I just opeded the "44.1k 24 bit" folder, went into the "SM57" folder, and just that kept me busy for a few hours.
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Brilliant. Thanks Greg.
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I still think we need a "Like" or "Thanx" button. :)
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I just put a really short clip in the Tone Thread, using LePou Hybrit and one of Greg's cab impulses.
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rammer24 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:06 pm I just put a really short clip in the Tone Thread, using LePou Hybrit and one of Greg's cab impulses.
When you used gregs impulse files were you using reaverb as your IR loader?
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No, I use the SIR. It has more parameters like Pre-delay, length, etc....You can see all the parameters in the picture. Even has an EQ section.

http://www.siraudiotools.com/sir1.php
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I don't even have a sim. Hmmm maybe i do. Protools has 11rack and sansamp. Not sure.

But some nice IRs is cool. Maybe take you up on your kind, generous offer for later use?
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I tried these new IR's last night real quick with Amplitube instead of the hybrit and some of them are DEFINITELY useable. Thanks Greg. though i will say they definitely have that Mesa Cab Woof? honk? heavyness? not sure what the word is but that characteristic was captured quite well.

I think i am caught up at work enough i am going to get this entire weekend off (and it is a long weekend to boot) which means i will finally have some me time. Will be posting some toans!!!!

I also realized that Amplitube has a sim of the AD30 included in the bundle so i am going to line it up against the real thing for shits. I already know that the outcome is going to be lol. But will be fun.
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